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Jo S's avatar

A separate comment: I dont see vinegar based shrubs on the list? And dry-hopped infusions , esp. hop water (they are very different than alc free beer! unforntunaely in german, but you can translate: https://www.hopstore.fr/de/houblonner-au-lieu-de-fermenter-lavenir-des-boissons-sans-alcool-au-travers-du-houblon/

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This is great!

to replace beer or wine, my very personal criteria would be

a) dry (i.e. non-sweet, we have a german word "herb" for it - what a beer or wine is) -> exclude milk- or juice-based drinks, etc. but also water

b) entirely caffein free -> often excludes kombucha

c) cold , ideally refreshing (sparkling) -> excludes tea, etc.

So far, only alc-free alternatives do that (better or worse), e.g. alc-free beer.

Some vinegar-based shrubs go in the direction, but often they remain quite sweet.

I wonder if you have any suggestions from your list?

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